Saturday, 13 October 2012

Circular No 571







Newsletter for alumni of The Abbey School, Mt. St. Benedict, Trinidad and Tobago, W.I.
Caracas, 13 October 2012 No.571
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Dear Friends,
The celebration is over.
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From: Glen Mckoy <mckoy43glen@hotmail.com>
Date: 11 October, 2012 7:56:49 AM EDT
Hola Sarkis,
Today, I would like to welcome home back to the Club our brother - Angel Gomez Ramos, Mt. 72-74,
Angel is the GM for Caterpillar Dealer in Jamaica.
It’s has been 40 years since he made contact, then somehow he found El Ambassador Salvador, ha! ha! jejejej,
Please do send Angel a note, he would like to hear from good friends.
His email address - angelmgomezster@gmail.com
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Glen Schaefer Gabe, I thank you for all your efforts in recognizing Cutty for all that he has given to our Mt Boys. I truly would have like to be present but other priorities took precedence. Contributing to the effort was not a second thought for me, I was just happy to see someone out there appreciated cutty enough to awake the other as to how much he did for us. Thank you for all your efforts. Peace.
Gabriel Faria Glen, he deserved it, all the old boys have some connection with him. Even though his body is frail his mind is still sharp. I hope he gets to enjoy the gift.
Glen Schaefer I enjoyed the TV clip and the photos and like I previously posted, his body may be frail but that look when he engaged my mind as a young man I will never forget. As young men he challenged our minds to do right never mattered to his if it was unorthodox. Message was always challenge yourself to do your best. Once again, Gabe, thanks for giving me an opportunity to express my gratitude to Cutty. (No disrespect never addressed him as Father Cuthbert, to me Cutty had all the warmth and love when I speak of him)
Gabriel Faria I feel the same way about him too, from the success in terms of the money we collected from over 50 old boys I think the feeling is shared by many.
Comments from our time with Cutty yesterday: while his body maybe frail, his mind is sharp and he still has an amazing sense of humour. We all talked for about 20- 30 minutes. He also gave a short speech and a blessing to all the Old Boys. We also donated the gifts for the Monks to the Abbot who also gave a short speech and blessed the Old Boys.  Even Odo came. A video was done of the presentation, which will edited this week and I will try to post it on online so all of you all could share in the joy we felt.
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                                                LAST DAY OF TERM
Papalou squeeze Castro (the big one, Reinaldo) stones in the fight outside Form IV.
Monkey Toenail Gonsalves and Small World Azar was sitting under the mango rose tree with Muscle Toe Gransaul eating mango chow --pepper for so! -- when they hear the confusion and run to see what was going on. The boys was in a ring around the two who was fighting and was shouting: “Heave! Heave!”. Castro had Papalou catch in a lock-neck and was trying to butt him at the same time.
Papalou face was turning purple because the lock-neck was pressing his throat and he thought he was going to strangle so he had to put on the stones-squeeze. Some of the boys say it was because he was a Frenchboy from Guadaloupe and French people was stink. They always used to tell that to Papalou but he didn’t used to take them on at all. Besides, the Venezuela boys used to fight stink too. One time Castro brother, the middle one, Pedro, nearly poke out Mafasi eye in a fight down by the apiary. But that was after Mafisi push he finger up the boy nosehole. In that fight they kick over a hive and the bees sting them up so bad the two of them end up in the infirmary. Boy, them Pagnol used to fight stink for so. But they was brave.
Anyhow, the boys was all shouting “Heave! Heave!” and making one big set of noise. They was making so much noise that when Papalou grab Castro stones and Castro start to bawl you nearly couldn’t hear him. But he had to let go the lock-neck quick because the stones must have been hurting him real bad, boy. Well, he fall down on the ground, rolling and bawling and holding on to his stones and Papalou just stand up there with his mouth buss and he shirt tear up with blood all over the place.
Suddenly: “Fweep! Fweeeep!!” ….Whistle. ---Fardifonse coming. The boys scatter like peas and by the time Scroongie --that is what the used to call Fr. Ildefonse – well, by the time he come round the corner every man-jack gone. Only Castro remain, lying on the ground, holding on to his stones, crying. But he never tell on Papalou. He tell Ildefonse one of the boys kick a football and it hit him “below the belly”, but he didn’t know which boy it was. Papalou had make the mistake to cuss Castro mother. Well, he didn’t really cuss she. All he tell Castro was: “you mudder…..!” but that was enough. If you say anything about a Venezuela boy mother or sister is to look out. Trouble! Papalou was lucky it was last day of term.
And you know what? Castro voice stay high, high, high after that; -- or that is what they uses to say……
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Friday, September 28, 2012 9:58 PM
Yes we certainly are receiving the circulars, so we were surprised when saw the "supposed request".
Hopefully, they'll keep on coming..
Thanks for answering
Susie de V
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On Sep 27, 2012, at 6:21 PM, ladislao kertesz <kertesz12@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Susan,
The list is being kept by Nigel Boos in Canada,
I just prepare the Circulars, and lately I have been sending them to Don Mitchell who has a blog in Anguilla.
I shall check the reference that you mention, jajaja, it must be a mistake.
I believe that you are getting one or two Circulars??
The latest is No. 568 extra.
God Bless
LAdislao
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From: Susan de Verteuil <deevees@tstt.net.tt>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:04 PM
Subject: Mount Database
Hi Ladislao,
I noticed on the database it states that I have asked to be removed from the mailing list.
Nothing could be further from the truth I very much look forward to all the news.
Keep up the good work.
Just for the record I am a retired Airline (BWIA) pilot living in Trinidad.
Regards David 'peanuts' de Verteuil
Susie de V
(The database is managed by Nigel Boos, editor)
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FROM: Don Mitchell
Thursday, September 20, 2012 6:54 AM
Good to see you on this posting, Alan.
Hope everyone is reading Ladislao’s Circulars at
And that you check it once a week or so for any new postings.
Don’t forget to use the comment button at the end of any post that you want to say something about.
Keep well.
Don
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From: Alan Date
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: Aqualads - Perhaps from '67 - '69
Nigel,
Ah, that photo brings back memories: I'm back in the pool area, & can taste the chlorine (more like feel it sting your eyes!), and can see Fr. Bernard giving out medals.
But, as far as I can remember, I never swam for Aqualads; I think it was only after leaving MSB (late/end of '62?) that I began swimming competitively; I certainly later competed against the Aqualads!
So, I can't be much help except to say that I agree with the Farah & Mitchell suggestions (for #s 8 & 9). And would Bernard Lange, RIP, have been involved then as coach, and so in the picture?
Incidentally, do the Old Boys' records have mention of Bernard saving a life in that pool? He retrieved the unconscious fellow from the deep end, and performed resuscitation. And he received a medal for that, I believe from the Governor General (Sir Solomon Hochoy?) at Scout Headquarters in St. Ann's. Not invited and not brazen enough to storm the ceremony, I stood by the roadside and watched the hand over through the chain link fence. Man, you've brought to mind some long-buried - but good - memories!
Keep well, & GB: I'll offer my attendance & a prayer at 6pm Mass here in HK for you good folk...
Alan
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Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:59 PM
Greetings Ladislao
I guess we will have simultaneous celebration in Caracas and MSB.
Regret the dates clash.
Sent lunch promo to place on msbtunapuna.blogspot.
We only confirmed lunch today and need your kind support with our promo.
Can FB be linked to your homepage?
Regards to all.
Winston
(The Circular, does not have a homepage, it uses Don Mitchell´s Blog, editor)
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From: ladislao kertesz ;
Subject: Re: October 7 ELECTIONS in VENEZUELA
Sent: Mon, Sep 17, 2012 3:25:26 PM
Dear Friends,
Due to the elections here in Venezuela on the 7 of October, I cannot be at the Celebrations.
I just forgot this date.
But shall keep on sending the usual Circulars and extra ones to get all the information
Ladislao
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From: Tim Mew MHC [mailto:tim-mew@bigpond.com]
Sent: Friday, 31 August 2012 8:16 AM
Hi Nigel & Ladislao,
Both of you are to be greatly admired for your current and past work and I have always asserted to this end, but please do me a favour.
I am interested in hearing from you always, but put me in as a "blind copy' when you send out.
I have received numerous emails from everyone hitting the reply to all key and it just clogs up my in box.
As you will know there has been expansive emails on MSB etc., which to be honest as I am far away in Australia is a little bit academic.
So do me this favour and I will still appreciate emails directly from you both.
Cheers and as mentioned before if you are ever in Melbourne let me know.
Good luck, happy hunting and keep well in our advancing days.
Tim.
(The Circular is sent out only to the recipient, and not to a group, editor)
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TAKEN FROM THE FACEBOOK
Hudson McKoy                                             21 August 17:49
As part of the 100 years Anniversary of MSB, I would like to reiterate my sentiments to do a 'Sermon On The Mount Plaque' and dedicate it from the Abbey School Alumni Association to include all the names of the Abbey School Boys together with the Sermon and to be placed in an appropriate place on the Mount. I already spoke with Glen Evelyn about his original idea to make such a plaque and Glen McKoy, Nigel, Kazim, Joseph etc...your thoughts on this idea are welcome for discussion... Hudson...
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Kazim Abasali                                           22 August 09:06
MSB friends and family, I am closing down the Abbey School Alumni Association group I started since early 2009. I would like for us to be together as one group. When Facebook changed, group members were not informed, so we lost contact. I would like for us to bond on this group that Gabriel Faria initiated for our celebrations this year. Let us keep the momentum going. Boys from the other group repost your photos here. My sincere best wishes to our continued success and participation. And thanks to all who keep the Boys together - Ladislao, Don, Jon, Glen, and others.
A special thank you Salvador Coscarart, and Fr FatherHarold Imamshah for all the photos and postings on the goup.
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Kazim Abasali                                   25 August 16:11
I would like to let Ladislao Kertesz and Don label the photos for the Newsletter/Blog. Let us make sure Nigel Boos get all the latest names and email addresses. One important thing to remember, Facebook only serves those connected to this social media. Don is not connected and a lot of people choose not for their own personal reasons. So this group is serving only part of an Association for now. Also, remember Facebook keeps changing, and we do not know where we will be with this group as time go by. So, enjoy and use while we can....Blessings to all....Kazim
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Gabriel Faria                         25 August 15:51
Kazim, Ladislao you can then download any picture any of the old boys post on the group. This is the new era the members control the content. I expect that we will need to moderate the posts if it gets out of hand.
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Father Harold Imamshah      25 August 15:39
ok. I'll do that later; I'm off to the 4pm Mass at one of my Churches. God bless.
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Kazim Abasali                                   25 August 15:33
Father Harold can you kindly upload those photos here like you and Salvador Coscarart did in the other group?
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Father Harold Imamshah      25 August 15:30
Don Goddard came to a Funeral at my parish Church in Colfax, LA and after determining that my accent was indeed that of a Trini, we got talking and once he told me that he was an Abbey School alumnus, I shared with him my years as a Benedictine monk and as a former teacher at Abbey School. In the space of 2 weeks, Don excitedly hooked me up with Salvador Coscarat and a Callaloo soup over rice, with 2 other Trinis at his Baton Rouge home. I already had met Salvador through Kazim's Mount facebook page and had Salvador's pics on my tablet, so we all gloated over oldie Mount pics and I answered all of their many questions about Fr. Cuthbert, Fr. Bernard, Fr. Augustine, Fr.Chrysostom Leesing ... So, we do have the beginnings of a very enthusiastic Louisiana Abbey School Connection (Nigel, you will remember it is through Don's email report of this little reunion that we began to email each other)
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Kazim Abasali           25 August 15:23
Well said, Gabriel. It is to keep the association alive, and the participation by the boys with their comments, photos, etc, that is the lifeblood of the group. God bless!!!
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Kazim Abasali           20 August 13:13
MSB boys kindly join my Facebook group of friends please, those haven't as yet, that is. Blessings....Kazim
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Ladislao Kertesz at kertesz11@yahoo.com,
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Photos:
09NB0006REUNIONAJAX, Finally we have the names.
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720761LK12FACEBOOK.
1838441LK12FACEBOOK,




Saturday, 6 October 2012

Circular No 570







Newsletter for alumni of The Abbey School, Mt. St. Benedict, Trinidad and Tobago, W.I.
Caracas, 6 October 2012 No.570
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Dear Friends,
Today is the DAY, happy 100th Anniversary Celebrations
I shall be sending No.571 with the news of what happened in the events written by local observers from the Association and collaborators like Winston Ramsahai and other helpers of the Circular.
Of course you can go to the Facebook site:
And now to the basics
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Dear Glen
The association is an international effort; as most are too far to get into the live part.
I have problems to travel and I am living next door to TT.
I cannot be there for the 6 October, our elections are on the 7 October.
All I can say is that I finally see a movement and less rhetoric.
My speech at the Union Tower was just that, I am an engineer and no politician.
It is the same idea that I have presented at the association meeting, see the Minutes.
I am for individual work, as each of us has ideas that are needed to breed life into any association.
But this individual work should work towards a definite goal, the goal set forth by the ideals of the association and not by an individual herder.
Hope this helps, jajajaj, or make it more confusing?
God bless
Ladislao
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From: Glen Mckoy mckoy43glen@hotmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:38 PM
Subject: RE: Articles of Association
Dear Nigel & Ladislao,
If this is a proper association, with so many international members, we should be able to pay a membership fee and also vote, count me in, unless it is a limited membership?
Cheers Glen McKoy.
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Subject: Articles of Association
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:31:12 -0400
Thanks, Don.
On the basis of this information, and assuming that Company Law in Trinidad is more-or-less as Don explains, then only paid-up members should receive a copy of the Articles of Association.
Now, I know that we currently do not have a membership fee, but perhaps we should, and then we all can, upon payment of said fee, request and obtain a copy of the Articles.
Now, I still do not know who is operating as the Executive of our Association, and in what capacities, but this is a call to Ladislao, perhaps, to try to get this matter straightened out and to establish a voting or other procedure for the election / appointment of Officers.
Everything else should flow naturally from that point on.
Best wishes, everyone.
Nigel
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On 2012-09-17, at 7:59 AM, Don Mitchell wrote:
Hello Nigel,
I am not sure about the company law of Trinidad, but I know a little about the general law on obtaining copies of Articles of Association.
Basically, only fully paid up members of corporations (whether shareholding or membership as this one probably is) are normally entitled to copies, and that only on payment of the prescribed fee in the Articles.
It is not that it is confidential so much as that it is a membership thing.
So far as I know, there are only one or possibly two members of the corporation at present.
I have been hoping that I will be told in due course what my annual membership fee is to be so that I can apply for membership, pay up, and then I also can ask for a copy of the Articles.
Keep well.
Don
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From: Nigel Boos
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 9:33 PM
Subject: Articles of Association
Thank you for your kind response, Joe. I'd be very interested to see exactly what our Articles of Association include, and I'm looking forward to receiving a copy in due course.
Question: Is this something confidential, or is it advisable to consider putting it permanently on our Facebook page? (Don or Dennis might advise).
Nigel
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On 2012-09-16, at 7:17 PM, Joseph Berment-McDowald wrote:
Dear Nigel,
In response to your email of the 10th instant.
I am sorry but, I am not at liberty to provide the information which you have requested, at this time.
By copy of this email I am asking the secretary to include this request for discussion, when we next have an annual general meeting, at which time you will be informed of the company's position.
yours sincerely,
Joe
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Contacting the Azar 'boys"
FROM: Nigel Boos
Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:09 AM
Joe,
Would you mind telephoning any of the Azar OB's to ask them for their emails, please? I'm having a really difficult time to get any response from Michael.
Thanks for your help.
Nigel
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From: Glen Mckoy <mckoy43glen@hotmail.com>
Date: 30 September, 2012 9:32:05 AM EDT
Hello Nigel,
I send Joe Azar mount related stuff all the time, one of our many silent supporters.
I remember Joe well, when I was a boy in scouts he was a product of Cutty, ha! ha!
dem guys don't joke man, I was 12 yrs old and scared like hell ha! ha!
Joe was the man, strict and always so serious, remember we won everything in the country, we were soldiers, in our minds ha! ha!,
I was on the mount in 1968, so I know Jimmy, Robert and Edmund.
They were the big guys, I remember Robert Aboud nice guy, we all hanged out around the school, so you had to know who was who,
Danny Essi? (Syrian) good friend also.
Nigel, so many mates are still missing, and we don't even have a clue, where they are, good luck in our quest, for The Lost Tribe.
Adios Amigos
Glen.
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From: nigelboos@yahoo.ca
Subject: Contacting the Azar 'boys"
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:03:26 -0400
Hello, Joe.
I haven't heard from you in ages, and I hope this email finds you in good health and happiness.
I'm trying to find out the email addresses of the following Azar boys and I'm wondering whether you might be able to direct them to me:
Joseph Azar (1955?)
Jimmy Azar (1968?)
Robert Azar (1969?)
Edmund Azar (1971?)
As you know, I’m trying to complete the Old Boys database, of former students at MSB, which is the reason for my question.
Do you feel comfortable to forward these addresses?
if you are unsure about this, perhaps you can send all of the Azar "boys" MY email address and ask them, if they're interested, to contact me directly.
Thanks, Big Joe. I appreciate your help.
Nigel
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Final email on this topic and my final communication to the group
Sunday, October 7, 2012 10:35 PM
Gabriel Faria
Guys, I am wrapping up this exercise and this will probably be my last email on this topic and my last communication to the group
52 Old Boys contributed to this effort.
If you sent in a donation and your name is not on this list please let us know on this post. ´
I understand that Peter Sammy will be sending out receipts to each Old Boy.
Some people who made commitments did not come through but all in all it turned out well and the amount collected was more than we originally targeted.
Based on this we gave the monks a larger cash donation of US$750.00 instead and will also give Cutty more cash for spending money on his trip.
I would like to thank everyone for their support in this effort.
Oscar Cantore
Roger Juman
Neil Charles
Salvador Coscarat
Glen Schaefer
Gabriel Faria
A Anonymous
Joseph Berment
Richard Galt
Dennis Gurley
Chris Knowles
George Laquis
Anthony Lucky
Ananda Rampersad
Raj Rooplalsingh
Jimmy Samaroo
Peter Sammy
Harold Stauble
Carlos Guio
George Mickiewicz
Don Mitchell
Gordon Mitchell
Winston Ramsahai
Toddy Ramsahai
John Roopchand
Ken Austin
Stephan Bushe
Alan Chandler
Marlon Da Silva
Shaun Gianetti
Luis Guio
Victor How Chung
Mike Howard
Fr. Harold Imamshah
Glen Mckoy
Azizul Mohammed
Jerry Toolsie
Kelvin Khan
Adrian Chandler
Glen Evelyn
Hans Herman
Jorge Iwaszkiewicz
Hudson Mckoy
Moses Oderson
Salah Wilson
Yunnus Ali
Winston Kerry
Gary Matthews
Gangaram Rampersad
Stuart Henderson
Ian Gomes
Nigel Gomes
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Ladislao Kertesz at kertesz11@yahoo.com,
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12704LK12FACEBOOK, Taken from Facebook
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